I have to ask because I'm not really sure of the answer. Where does Jehover come from? A couple that was away for awhile came back with that pronunciation of Jehovah. I've heard some Brits say it, is it from there? Kind of reminds me of how Colonel is said as kernel. Used to drive me crazy in school because I kept searching for a word with an R in it.
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New mangled words
by road to nowhere inexampler.
like in christ is ours.
add this to liberry pronounciation and aks.
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Watchtower volunteer injuries
by neat blue dog ini was recently talking with a zealous 'sister' who for years was assigned to use a certain chemical while taking care of wt property, only to have it irreparably damage her immune system partly because she wasn't trained properly.
she said there was a potential lawsuit but she didn't want to bring reproach on jehovah's organization.
has anybody else heard of similar situations, of people being hurt or injured in service to the org, maybe even because of them, and taking the loss so the org wouldn't look bad?.
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I always wondered what had sparked an article in the WT about being safe on the job, wearing the right equipment. It was for the Jw's and not the worldlies. Guess one two many accidents.
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Stopping Thought Stopping.
by Peeringin inim sure that many on this forum will be aware of the thought-stopping techniques that are taught by jws/wts to suppress difficult thoughts and overcome cognitive dissonance in favour of reverting back to belief in wts.. often in conversation these will be clear verbal cues that can sound unnatural during the course of a conversation, as though an individual is temporarily reading a script to overcome a difficult point.. my question to you all is this:.
are there any methods or resources that people are aware of that can help to break through a thought stopping mechanism when it is noticeably in effect?
a question perhaps, or technique that will encourage the individual to think the thought through in its entirety?.
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I think questions are a good way to do it, or to tie in what they believe to actual events. A witness at work who is always doing the "the world is so bad" line is one I do the actual events on. When ISIS was destroying temples, she complained about the art being destroyed. I said Well they believe it's pagan. It's no different than the Israelite's going around and destroying all the pagan temples and art. Silence and big eyes. She says it's terrible the people they are killing. I say yes it is, they took homosexuals to the tops of roofs and threw them off. Silence.
I've also discussed with her that there are people that are born with both the X and Y so that doctors don't know what gender they are. That homosexuals are really born that way. That caused her to think.
Will this all mean something down the road to her? I don't know. But as they say A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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irrefutable proof of the great apostasy that corrupted the catholic church
by TTWSYF inwhen the emperor constantine legalized christianity in the roman empire around 311ad he allowed or introduced a flood of half converted pagans and allowed the corruption that sullied the true faith and ruined christianity until a time when it could be restored to the true and pure faith that it was intended to become.
many people here know that to be a fact.
it's a common sense theory, right?.
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Since religion is a business, no one wants to share the profits and so they whine about "counterfeits"
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The New York Times Article on Jehovah's Witnesses
by Tenacious inthe following story appeared in the new york times today:.
surviving the death of my son after the death of my faith.
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She expresses well, how you might feel and think after religion goes away from your life. I have similar thoughts about death.
It's also surprising how children connect events like thunderstorms as being God bringing judgement on them. I thought the same way. I also read Mark Twain's book about his life and every time a thunderstorm happened, he would pray and beg to God that he would from then on be a good boy. Funny how religion does that.
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New convention video
by Olig inso i've just seen a snippet of a new convention release, and it's obviously a reenactment (bloody poor one - look at the state of the disposable beards lol!
) of bible times.. the chap speaking is heard saying if your family members turn away and serve false gods, you should kill them!.
https://twitter.com/jfnilsen/status/1133000862719270912?s=09.
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I think it would be interesting if confronted by a family member or "friend" over this, to pick up a stone and hand it to them and say "here's a rock, why don't you stone me with it?" Just trying to show the reality of what they have been encouraged to do.
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Convention 2019: Children told don't form emotional attachment to pets!
by Nathan R. Koppe ini have just heard from a visitor to the jehovah's witnesses convention for 2019, that they have been told; 'not to form an emotional attachment to their pets, as animals don't have feelings anyway'.. well, that should break a few children hearts!👨👩👧👦 🥴 😭 💔.
my orignal topics are at.
further info:.
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If I didn't have pets when I was young, I wouldn't have felt loved by anyone. When I was a teenager and Armageddon coming to destroy to me, I contemplated suicide. The thought of my pets missing me kept me back.
Children and adults need love and if it isn't available from family or friends, a pet can give it.
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So how "worldly" did you get after you left the "truth"
by greenhornet ini don't drive a 4 door car.
lol.
i go to a local christian church.
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Toesup We went to a church, for a high school graduation. I took a few more paper towels than I would have been able to take at the KH. lol
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Shift in beliefs?
by blankspace ini was wondering whether anyone observed this point in the previous week's wt study, in paragraph 17: "jehovah’s spirit moves “the faithful steward” to keep giving his servants their food supply.".
i see this as a subtle move away from earlier claims to be channel for spiritual food.
the gb earlier said that they weren't inspired or infallible.
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I remember the articles about how Holy Spirit is used to pick the elders. How the GB is chosen and inspired by Holy Spirit. How they made changes with the Holy Spirit.
All this in effect, made them infallible. Because when you have God using the Holy Spirit to "illuminate" the scriptures to the GB to make these changes, you couldn't be making mistakes or be wrong. Hence their use of "new light" as an explanation and all of the mumbo jumbo that went into using the illustration of how when the sun comes up, gradually you will see more detail and so the understanding becomes much clearer etc. Then you had the "tacking" of the ship explanation. All of this piling on explaining their flip flopping, means that not everyone was buying it so they had come up with something else. It also put into the followers minds, that nothing is clear cut with the workings of Holy Spirit and so they should leave it to the GB.
Then the article came out about them not being infallible and that they were "spirit directed" instead of Holy spirit inspiring them. Which to me means the GB is not going to accept responsibility for past "mistakes" or present ones. They can wash their hands of it all. And the regular JW's love that the leaders are being "so humble" and are just like them.
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Remember when we lodged in private homes at conventions?
by FatFreek 2005 ini bring this up now because i haven't seen any postings about that practice because i got out in 1977. when did wt quit soliciting private homes for accomodations?
or have they stopped?.
i hated it, but it was the only way we could afford to go.
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My mother took all four of us girls to Pasadena from the Bay Area in an Impala. We stayed at a house. The people were really nice but I don't remember the details of their house so much.
I do remember that it was so stinking hot, my older sister got a bloody nose that wouldn't stop and so we left early one day from the convention. She had her face over a cone of newspaper.
What did we learn at the convention? Who knows.